Sasha Graham's Ghost Stories by the Fire

Haunted Herstory

• Sasha Graham • Season 2 • Episode 22

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đź’ĄAn Army of Darkness, Spooky Socialite and Messages from Mom! 3 brand new, TRUE historical ghost stories recorded live at the Barrow's Intense Tasting Room and coming to you from my new home at WHNY 93.6 Western Catskill Radio. Welcome to episode #22 HAUNTED HERSTORYđź‘»

Story #1 “THE PHANTOM FLICKER”

Storyteller: Susan Wands

Story #2 “SPOOKY SLUMBERPARTY”

Storyteller: Elizabeth Kerri Mahon

Stort #3 “BLOODCURDLING BOOKCLUB”

Storyteller: Hope Tarr

Paranormal Expert: Ethony Dawn

Kris Waldherr and her book Unnatural Creatures: The Novel of the Frankenstein Women.

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Sasha Graham’s Ghost Stories by the Fire is a midnight radio show airing on WHNY Western Catskill Radio 93.6FM.

Episode #22 was recorded live at the Barrow's Intense Tasting Room, Industry City in Brooklyn, NY.

“Lovely,” the Sasha Graham’s Ghost Stories by the Fire theme song, was created by the Adams Family for their film 2019 The Deeper You Dig. This horror flick will haunt you long after it ends!
Watch The Deeper You Dig now, free on Tubi:
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Host, Writer & Creator: Sasha Graham
Audio Engineer: Bill Brady

Sasha Graham collects Ghost Stories at her live, crowd-sourced, spooky storytelling events around the country and broadcasts these spooky tales from the old fire tower on Tannery Road in Wands Hollow, a small farming community located upstate in Sullivan County, NY.

Sasha Graham is an award-winning metaphysical author of over 12 books and tarot decks whose work has been translated into more than 10 languages. Sasha Graham teaches tarot around the world and is also an indie horror film actress. 


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John Adams
Yeah. But, you know, it's it's. Come on.

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John Adams
You come to me when I'm lonely. I take your hand and we go home.

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John Adams
You cover me with your love. We. Hello.

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Sasha Graham
And welcome to Sasha Graham's ghost Stories by the fire season two. I'm your host, Sasha Graham, and I'm broadcasting from w h n y Western Catskill radio 93.6 FM on your radio dial. It's just after midnight. The world's gone quiet. But I'm hoping you'll hang on to the sound of my voice. And listen to a spooky story or two.

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Sasha Graham
Because when we sit around metaphorical fire the way people have done for eons and the stories start coming, especially ghost stories, we become bonded in common experience. We have all lost someone we dearly love. We have all experienced mysteries and strange happenings that can't be explained. And at the end of the day, no matter who we are, we all want the same things to know we are loved.

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Sasha Graham
To know we are safe and most importantly, to feel connection. And nothing grounds us in human experience as much as a delicious ghost story. I want you to remember you aren't alone out there. So I've been out in the wild collecting ghost stories just for you. I'm inviting you to listen as I broadcast tonight's show from the old fire tower in Once Hollow, New York.

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Sasha Graham
So for you locals listening in, we've got a waning crescent moon, cold air and snow showers in the forecast. Even though spring's creeping around the corner towards us, the groundhog saw his shadow, which means a little more winter weather is in store. But I do hope you're not jumping at the shadows dancing around you. In fact, why not lean in and take a closer look at the darkness you cast, what you find there might surprise you.

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Sasha Graham
Tonight I have a collection of stories from a Ghost Stories by the Fire book event I held at the Barrows intense tasting room in Columbus with author Chris Walder. This ghost story event celebrated the launch of Wilder's 2022 book, Unnatural Creatures A novel of the Frankenstein Women, which became Crime Reads Most anticipated Book for fall 2022 and one of Reader's Digest Top 25 books for Halloween.

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Sasha Graham
Chris Walder was kind enough to bring along a slew of female author friends who graced the stage with peculiar and strange ghost stories. But not just any old ghost stories. You see this vicious circle of authors all specialize in writing and publishing historical fiction, so it should come as no surprise that tonight's tales are all true ghost stories, with elements of history woven throughout.

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Sasha Graham
Welcome to episode 22 haunted. Her stories. Our first ghostly tale involves a witchy family death mask and Edwin Booth's bedroom. Sound kinky? Let me give you a little backstory on who Edwin Booth is and why he is important. Edwin Booth is the brother of Abraham Lincoln's assassin, John Wilkes Booth. But Edwin Booth wasn't famous for being John Wilkes Booth brother.

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Sasha Graham
Edwin Booth is considered by many to be the most important stage actor of the 19th century. The dark haired and sensitive eyed Booth bears a striking resemblance to actor, writer and director Griffin Dunn. Booth was a renowned Shakespearean actor who founded New York City's players Club, a plush, wood paneled private club sitting at 16 Gramercy Park South. Booth bought the house in 1888, reserved in upper floor for his residence, and turned the rest into a clubhouse, which still operates to this day.

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Sasha Graham
Our first story takes place at Edwin Booth Players Club. The following story was told by author Susan Wands. Susan Wands is a historical fiction writer, co-chair of the New York City Historical Novel Society, and has written a series of books about Pamela Kaufman. Smith. Smith is the illustrator of the writer Waite Smith Tarot Cards, and Susan Wands is latest book in her Arcana Oracle series is called Emperor and Hierophant.

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Sasha Graham
Now here's Susan Wands with The Phantom Menace.

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Susan Wands
Right. Thanks, everybody. Well, I do have kind of a weird name. It's Susan Wands. It's Scottish, and my grandmother, Goldie Wands, was reputed to be something of a psychic. And she had a farmhouse in upstate New York, where we were all terrified because she could make the Ouija board move. She could move things. She was just very intuitive.

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Susan Wands
My mother, however, Joel Dolan, did not get along with her Scottish mother in law. So well, and she always Pooh poohed all this ghosty stuff. So we were always known as the Scottish side was very witchy, woo woo, and the Irish side was very pragmatic. So years and years later, my mother passed away and we had a huge funeral, a mass at Saint Francis of Assisi and Spokane, Washington.

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Susan Wands
Now they had a new priest who didn't know my mother very well. And every time he pronounced her name during the service, he called her Joel instead of Joel. And every time he said her name, the entire light of the entire interior of Saint Francis of Assisi would turn off. You could hear the fuze box switch. So this happened about three times.

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Susan Wands
Now, the first two times, my twin sister, my two other sisters and my brother, we just looked at each other like, no, this just a mistake. This is weird. This can't be happening. The third time it happened, we were laughing so hard. We were crying because it was. It was just like my mother's answer to my grandmother. So what happened to me recently was I was at the Players Club in New York City, and Gramercy Park is this beautiful mansion that Stanford White has renovated.

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Susan Wands
And I was doing some research on Henry Irving, who is one of the characters in my novel. He stayed there. There were some items of his that Edwin Booth, the famous actor, had. And one of the main reasons I went is because there was a death mask of Ellen Terry, who is also a big character in my books.

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Susan Wands
But I was a little afraid to look at the death mask, but I also just wanted to see what she looked like. So we had this charming docent. He was about. Yay! Hi. His name is Rory and there was one other fellow with us, Cayden. He was a drama student from Baltimore, so it was just he and I and Rory, and we had the lovely entire player's club to ourselves.

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Susan Wands
I have never been upstairs in the supposed haunted bedroom of Edwin Booth, so I was very excited that we were going to get up there. So every time we would go up to a different level, I go, is this the. No, this isn't it. Is that it? No, that's not it. We finally get up to the top floor.

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Susan Wands
He makes us stand away, and Jade and I are looking at each other going, well, I don't know if this is going to be worth it, but we'll see what happens. We come down the narrow hallway. He opens the door. Both Jaiden and I walked in. Thank you. Here he is. Like Jaden, very handsome. And it is freezing cold.

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Susan Wands
I mean, we're both looking at each other going, okay, this is kind of yikes. And it was one of those warm autumn days. So that was just a little unusual. The only light that he's turned on is one of those little spotlights that's shining on Edwin Booth's bed. So he begins to tell the story of how, when Edwin Booth moved for the last 3 or 4 years of his life into this bedroom, he told the Players Club, it was not negotiable.

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Susan Wands
That he got to put a picture of his brother, John Wilkes Booth, who assassinated President Lincoln right next to his bed. Now, the first time Rory said, John Wilkes Booth, the light turned off. So J.J. was looking each other, going, ha ha, funny. It's just so funny. So. Right again, they turned. He went over and he turned it on.

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Susan Wands
Rory started again with the story about John Wilkes Booth. The lights turned off again. It happened three more times so that Rory left us in the room to go get help. Because he thought it was a circuit. While we were standing there, I turned to Jaden and said, watch this. This is going to be really funny. Hey, mom, can you turn on the light?

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Susan Wands
The light turned on. That's my story.

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Sasha Graham
Well, who needs to remote control the lights with our smartphones when we can ask the ghosts to do it for us? Thank you for your story, Susan. I don't know about you, but I am fascinated. And how ghosts seem able to communicate via electricity. But why is that? In order to help us tease out the answer to this question, I've turned to a paranormal expert, oracle and tarot deck creator and author Anthony Don.

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Sasha Graham
Anthony is the creator of Bad Bitches Tarot, The Awakened Soul Oracle, and her most recent book is The Marvelous Tarot Grimoire. Here is Anthony's explanation of why ghosts are so good at communicating through flickering lights.

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Ethony Dawn
Such a great question, and there are a few theories that I tend to gravitate towards and might get a little bit of food for thought for everybody. So the first one is that if you have your building with the electricity powered to it, when you turn on your lights, you're not sending out a signal to the main power station in your city or whatever it may be to send power.

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Ethony Dawn
There's power and electricity constantly running through your building. All you're doing is sending a signal to your breaker to turn on that specific light, to open the pathway to that certain light, so there is always electricity running through your house. The usage is also tracked through that breaker on and off the meter. So if you have power running through that all the time, and I'm a very sensitive, my eyes are very sensitive, so I can hear the hum of electricity a lot.

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Ethony Dawn
I hate it, I love going out into the country and not hearing anything. So if you have this constant flow of energy that is somewhat magical in its own way, it can be a easy way for an energetic being to access just a constant flow of power to help them boost their the ability to communicate or interface with our reality.

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Ethony Dawn
Now we know very little about the world. Like even with all of the things we know about quantum physics, quantum mechanics, you know, multiple, realms or universes or things like that, we still don't know as much as we could if we were like, omnipresent and knew everything. Right? So, like, the more we know, the less we know.

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Ethony Dawn
And so if we look at these vibrational things of light okay, so this is what's going through this discovery store. This, spirit is able to tap into it, especially if we are asking for communication or if we are aware of it. They could be using that. And then the the circuits or the lights flickering, going on and off can be the fact that there's like a concentration of that energy and it's not steady.

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Ethony Dawn
Right. They don't have the physical mass that we do. To able to be able to manipulate the physical world the same way the weekend. So I think that might be one way. I think the other thing, too, is that there are a lot of, conversations around very highly energetic, sensitive people being able to or being the source of poltergeist activity.

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Ethony Dawn
And this has become something that I've seen a lot more and more people talking about, and that can be the case, but I don't think that's the case every single time. I think it has to be looked at from a case by case basis. But I do have an idea. Belief is a very difficult thing to to change.

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Ethony Dawn
If you haven't seen dogma, go watch that. Maybe because it very, very good. I have an idea that if you are also very sensitive and you may be more prone to poltergeist activity, that can then become another pillar or another active ingredient to why lights or why things like that. Flashlights would just be then that there's the battery, and if someone is holding the flashlight as well, then they're also adding their energy to it, as well as anything else around them.

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Ethony Dawn
I've seen so many paranormal, investigative shows which is some of my favorites, about how batteries will drain. And sometimes that can mean it could be Paranormal Activity. I also know that very cold temperatures zap and drain battery, so there's a lot that can be gone go into it. But I do have a feeling that the fact that there is constant electricity means that there is a constant source of power.

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Ethony Dawn
I know I have had intelligent conversations with spirits and they have, like, dim the lights and turn them back on again. And I've had to tell you, knock it off. But, I think there's a few reasons, but, I think it's also extremely obvious. Like, humans can be a little bit dim sometimes. And so something so physically obvious as what's going on and off is going to get your attention.

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Sasha Graham
Thank you. Hi. I'm so glad you mentioned flashlights, because our second story also has a haunting. But the ghost communicate dates through an old fashioned handheld flashlight instead of flickering lights. Our second story is about a paranormal sleepover in New York City's oldest surviving residents. The Morris Channel mansion was built on 160th Street in 1765. The mansion sits at the second highest point of Manhattan, which is why George Washington chose it as his headquarters during the American Revolution.

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Sasha Graham
But this tale isn't about Washington's ghost. It is about the fascinating lady of the house. Eliza Jamal. Eliza Jamal was born into abject poverty. She lived in a brothel with her mother until age seven, toiled in a workhouse with her sister, and then became an indentured servant to a sea captain. Jamal rose through the ranks of society defining herself, and eventually married Aaron Burr, the third vice president of the United States and the man who mortally wounded Alexander Hamilton in a fateful duel.

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Sasha Graham
Eliza wound up divorcing Aaron Burr, and perhaps it was a bit of witchcraft, or plain old karma that their divorce became final on the very day that Aaron Burr died. This story is told by Elizabeth Carey Mahoney. Elizabeth is the author of Pretty Evil New York, a fascinating book that dives deeper than the typical caricatures of female criminals as black widows, mob molls or femme fatales.

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Sasha Graham
Elizabeth writes about women spurred by passion, profit, paranoia or just plain perverse pleasure. It spans 100 years of murder, mayhem and madness in the Empire State, and Elizabeth's first book, Scandalous Women The Lives and Loves of History's Most Notorious, is now newly available on audiobook. Now, here's Elizabeth Carey Mahoney with spooky.

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Unknown
This is my current book. It's called Pretty Evil New York.

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Elizabeth Carey Mahone
It is true stories of mobster malls, violent vixens and murderous matriarchs, including, the story of the bobbed haired bandit who, for a couple of months in the 1920s, wreaked havoc in Brooklyn. So my story is about the night that the time that I spent the night in a haunted mansion. So I live in upper Manhattan, where, not far from the Maurice Jemal mansion.

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Elizabeth Carey Mahone
Who? How many people have been to the Maurice Jemal mansion? So the more Schimmel mansion is famous for Eliza Jamal Burr. But there are also two other ghosts in the house. There's a Hessian soldier who died when he tripped on his bayonet, and a maid who died of a broken heart. But the main attraction, the main ghost. The reason why everyone goes there is Eliza du Mal.

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Elizabeth Carey Mahone
So, one year I get an email from the house saying they're doing a paranormal investigation at the house. And not just a paranormal investigation. It's a sleepover. And not just a sleepover. It's on my birthday. So who wouldn't want to spend their birthday spending the night doing a paranormal investigation in a haunted mansion? Now, my birthday is November 2nd, which is All Souls Day, which is the three days All Hallows Eve, All Saints Day, and All Souls Day, where the veil between the worlds is supposed to be very thin.

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Elizabeth Carey Mahone
So like ghosts and what have you can come through? So of course, I'm not going to spend the night in the mansion by myself. I'm bringing some friends with me because I need to have witnesses, just in case. You know, Madame Jamal goes crazy and does something to me. So I invite one of my closest friends, Liana, who writes amazing ghost stories and a couple of other people to spend the night with me in the Maurice Jamal mansion.

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Elizabeth Carey Mahone
So we get there, we've got our sleeping bags and the whole thing, and the first place that we go to do the investigation is the kitchen, which, you know, the kitchen. And of course, it's only the women who told to go down to the kitchen. The men don't go down to the kitchen, just the women because, you know, kitchens, the women sphere.

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Elizabeth Carey Mahone
So already I'm a little like, you know, ticked off because kitchen. So we get down to the kitchen and it's pitch black in the kitchen. You can't see anything. And I'm sitting there with my friends and it's freezing cold all down my left side. And like just that the back of my neck, I can feel like fingers touching me.

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Elizabeth Carey Mahone
And I'm like, does anybody else, like, freezing cold? Does anyone else feel this? Nobody else except for me and my two friends feel this. And I'm like, you know, I don't feel comfortable. Let's move to another part of the kitchen. So we move and the same thing happens. Cold all down my left side. Fingers touching the back of my neck.

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Elizabeth Carey Mahone
And we have these, like EVP, like magnetic recorders in our hands, and they're going off like crazy. And I'm like, what's going on? Because I'm not seeing like, you know, manifestations of anything, but something's happening. I can feel it. And we go over to the camera because they're filming the whole thing, and they're little, like orbs dancing around our heads, which all the activity was solely around where we were sitting.

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Elizabeth Carey Mahone
So I'm like, oh, this is great. This is great. Maybe when we go upstairs, we'll like something else will happen. So we go upstairs to Madame Jamal's bedroom and we're in there and it's the men join us and we're sitting there and we've got the the flashlight. It's supposed to like, management's supposed to communicate with us. The flashlight.

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Elizabeth Carey Mahone
Right? And nothing's happening. Like we're sitting there and we're asking questions. Nothing's happening. And someone says it's because the men are in here. Madame Jamal does not like having the men in her bedroom. This is not. This is not done. So the men leave, and all of a sudden the flashlight starts flickering and it starts moving around the floor.

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Elizabeth Carey Mahone
And we start asking her questions and she starts answering us. And she's telling us, yes, you know, she things that happened. And then we ask her about whether or not she had an illegitimate son. And the flashlight goes silent and it goes off because we pissed off this. So we go to sleep in our sleeping bags and it's quiet, but all of a sudden you can hear footsteps walking up and down where we are.

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Elizabeth Carey Mahone
Yes, Madame Jamal, making sure that we're okay, making sure that we have a good night's sleep. And that's the night that I spent in a haunted mansion.

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Sasha Graham
Thank you for your story, Elizabeth. Would you spend the night in a haunted mansion? If you did, do you think you'd be able to sleep? I don't know if I could. I think I'd be up all night. Our final story takes place not in the Empire State, but in historical Fredericksburg, Virginia. Located south of Washington, D.C., Fredericksburg is the location of multiple Civil War battles that resulted in over a hundred thousand casualties.

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Sasha Graham
The story is told by author Hope Tarr. Hope is an award winning author of 25 historical and contemporary romance titles. Her latest book is Stardust the story of 18 year old Daisy Blakely, who arrives in Paris to apprentice for the renowned fashion designer Coco Chanel. Sarah Ferguson, Duchess of York, raves about Stardust, saying well done, hope. Time for a magical journey so grueling, so full of optimistic belief in the hope of a better future.

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Sasha Graham
I loved Rose and how she fought for the strength within herself. So now here is a two fold ghost story from Hope Tarr Blood Curdling Book Club.

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Hope Tarr
Hi everyone! I'm so pleased to be here. And Chris, I'm so happy to celebrate with you. So years ago, this is about also 20 years ago. I had a historic house in Fredericksburg, Virginia. We were right on Caroline Street, which was back in the day, Main Street. And during the Civil War, Fredericksburg was, raised three times.

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Hope Tarrn
And there was a very famous battle in the December of 1862 where the Union soldiers forded, the Rappahannock River by, pontoon bridges. And they basically fought it out. The two armies fought it out on Main Street. And to this day, you cannot, dig, dig for a rosebush without coming across remains or bullet shells or casings or whatnot.

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Hope Tarr
And so this was a lovely house I had. And it was, at the very end of Main Street and, I love history, and I love to throw parties, and I, I had a book club, and so we had a little book club called The Sippin Reed, and we would all take, a lot of sipping, a little bit of reading, and we would all take turns, hosting.

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Hope Tarr
And so my, my turn came around to host and, had a lovely time. And, you know, I sort of always felt like this kind of welcoming vibe in the house. And I, you know, sometimes I think ghosts kind of come to us when, you know, we're sort of. We have a soft gaze. Maybe we're a little tired.

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Hope Tarr
We're not so much in our head. And so I was wrapping up the evening or trying to and I had this one lady who just lovely woman just kind of was having such a good time. She just wasn't really going home. And we were kind of trying to show her to the door a little bit. And, and she was a little bit shorter than I am.

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Hope Tarr
So I'm in, I'm in flat shoes tonight. But she was like, she came about here to me and I'm talking to and she's talking and talking and talking to me. And I'm just thinking, oh my gosh, I wish you know, this, this dear lady would just, would just go home. And I sort of let my gaze go over her shoulder and I see coming down the stairs, I had a big grand staircase this very like six mid 60s.

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Hope Tarr
Man, white hair, whiskers, otherwise clean shaven white shirt with his sleeves rolled up like my sleeves are rolled up, whisking down the stairs, out the front door, which he dissolved through. And the only thing he did not have was a torso. It was all upper. I loved it. And then I have a quick second story. I was up late, as writers always are on deadline, and, I heard noises coming from my back yard.

00;28;50;26 - 00;29;12;09
Hope Tarrawn
And this is about three, 330 in the morning, quiet little town. And I thought, oh, you know, there have been, you know, there have been some vagrants partying and, you know, occasionally you'd find beer bottles or whatnot the next day in your yard. So I go to my back bedroom window to look out, thinking that, you know, I'm going to be seeing, you know, somebody, you know, drinking or smoking in my back yard.

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Hope Tarrn
I have to call the police or shoo them out or whatnot. And I go to the window and I suddenly hear and see what I believe to be an entire Civil War encampment in my backyard. It sounded like there were 200 people in that backyard. I heard, you know, somebody singing somebody on, like, a harmonica. And I just I stood there and I saw, you know, I didn't see images.

00;29;37;01 - 00;29;57;29
Hope Tarr
Images I saw kind of like a misty, a misty veil. But I must have stood there for at least a full minute. And then the voice says, it was almost like a high of a beehive. They got lower and lower and lower and lower and lower and lower, lower. And then I was just standing there.

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Sasha Graham
Was helping capturing an independently moving ghost, or was the ghost on her stairs and the scene in her backyard and energetic recording of a past event replay. To help me figure it out, I turned once again to Ethony Dawn. How can any of us know if what we're seeing is an energetic recording of a past event, and why would it exist in the first place?

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Ethony Dawn
The, spirit that I have encountered that feel like they, a recording or an energetic stamp or a, memory or, a presence that has been in a house for, say, for a very long time. If you had someone who had a very specific morning routine that they would do every morning, they go get a cup of tea in the kitchen hasn't been remodeled or whatever it may be, and then you might see, you know, remnants of that, of that energetic, footprint.

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Ethony Dawn
It's much like when you go on a trail in nature and you can see the well-worn path. Right. So if someone had lived somewhere for 50 years, raised children had had those. Imagine the conversations that happened in that kitchen. I mean, like births, deaths, all I mean, all the conversations we have of a meals, you know, so all those things were in the bedroom.

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Ethony Dawn
So I think there is a lot of that that can happen, especially if that is something that is very well known that have ties to the house, like they built it or it's a family home. I think that can also contribute. And then obviously something terrible happened there, you know, or, or something very, traumatic on an energetic and emotional scale.

00;31;47;02 - 00;32;02;14
Ethony Dawn
So a repeat is that, is that print, is that literally that thing happening over and over again? And I find that a lot of the times, that is when people say, oh, we always see at 3:00, you know, around that time someone in the window or whatever they may be.

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Sasha Graham
Thank you. If any, we are moving ever closer to the 1 a.m. hour. So I'm going to close the casket on this evening's show. You can find links to all of tonight's authors, their books, as well as information on all the haunted locations mentioned in tonight's show on my Sasha Graham's Ghost Stories by the Fire blog, episode 22 on my website Sasha graham.com.

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Sasha Graham
Do you have an interesting ghost story? I love to hear it and maybe have you on the show. Drop me a line at Sasha graham.com and put ghost stories in the subject line. That's all for now. Until we meet again. This is Sasha Graham signing off from the fire tower in Lance. Hello, New York, NY. Western Catskill Radio 93 point 6FM.

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Sasha Graham
Stay spooky, stay cozy and don't be afraid of the dark.