Episode #14: "LIVE Ghost Stories by the Fire Storytelling" at LightClub Curiosity Shoppe, Warwick, NY

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Unknown
You come to me when I'm lonely. I take you and we go home. You cover me with your love. Hey, you with my love.

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Sasha
Tonight's Live. Ghost Stories by the Fire episode was recorded at the Light Club Curiosity Shop in Waldwick, New York, on March 9th, 2024. One of the things people fear most when they think of ghostly hauntings is the cringeworthy idea of the dead watching us. But what happens when a ghost breaks the fourth wall and touches you without consent?

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Sasha
You are about to hear exactly what happened to Jim Caruso during the night. He and his wife spent in a haunted hotel. So draw your loved ones close and turn down the lights. Because I'm Sasha Graham. And this is alive. Ghost stories by the fire company.

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Sasha
Now, here's Jim's story. Ghost sex.

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Jim
My wife and I have a pension. We both conceive. We both sensitives. We love haunted hotels. We want the towns If we can stay in the haunted room itself, even better. So we go to this place called Jerome Robbins from Arizona. If you've never heard of Jerome, I invite you all. If you like paranormal, investigate. Ain't it? In its day?

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Jim
It was like the Deadwood Show on HBO. There's more haunted rooms, buildings, places in that town. Then forget it. I mean, even look into the hospital's territorial madhouse over there. Can you imagine? In the 1800s. So it became a ghost town when everything's dried up? Yeah. It's a real fun place to go to. It is. So we go and we go into Jerome, and we find this place called.

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Jim
It's called something else now. But it was the the in it, Jerome. And it was once a building. It has a cafe and the downstairs and like, ten or so rooms upstairs, it used to be a small saloon with a bordello upstairs. So we looked at, you know, walking around, and we find that the place is haunted by the by the madam who was murdered in her room by a patron or a dissatisfied customer.

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Jim
No one's really to assure they just found her stabbed to death one morning. So, of course, we're like, Is that room open? And they're like, yes, sure. Like, this is great. But hey, Simon, you know, so we have a fun day, and I. I swear we were bone sober. Helen is really tired and turns over, says goodnight.

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Jim
She turns over with a to me and goes to sleep. You know the old heart, Jane. Lamps that have. All right. The hurricane lamps that have the top like the bottom light. So I got the bottom light on. I don't want to keep her awake. And I'm just sort of reading the book because I'm not really that tired yet.

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Jim
Now, this was like an Arizona evening, like in spring, so it's cold at night, so there's no breeze. The wind is a shot, no air conditioner on. It's just one radiator. So I got there's no there's no wind. It's nothing, an air. And all of a sudden I feel something on my chest and I look down. I'm thinking, I spy, you know, I look down and I see I'm very hairy.

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Jim
I'm not going to scare you all. And I see my hair moving like this, fingers going up. I don't start a breeze because they're moving as it goes down, it's going up and down. And I'm like this in the bed. And my mind being my mind immediately goes to the scene in Ghostbusters where the ghost screws. Then I and that was like a millisecond.

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Jim
The thing is, survived the brain in the back of my head and goes as all shit. Actually get over this. no, no the thing. And it was graphics but little brain and I'm trying to find ways out of this. I'm like a three ways and none of are good for me anyway. One, I spurned her and she gets mad and hits me in the head with the lamp there in the night while I'm sleep.

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Jim
Listen, I'm thinking. I go, Well, I can't do that. I can't spend this all while I'm talking to her going. I go, Look, let's meet. You got to touch their relationship, you know? All right, This are going to be okay. Look, whatever is going to happen happened. What? Not. And then if it's, you know. Okay, But. shit.

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Jim
If I do, let it happen, not one up turns over, it goes. What's going on? I'm gonna have to scream, right? I'm right. Right. What? And then I know one of the other, you know, I mean, there's this all milliseconds thing to shut up while it's going off a little frozen, trying to figure it out. What do I do?

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Jim
What do I do? And I go off, I start screaming. Right? One of the other people read those fucking cold taps. I don't know the police force then. So I explain to a cop, one cop to another, that I was being raped by a ghost, and then she's going to think I'm crazier than she knows. I guess I just thought, that's bad for Jimmy, too.

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Jim
And then I said, And then the ghost is going to feel rejected because that's a spurting. I called the cops on a bordello, man. I go, What? Sleep? And I go for shit. And then I go, All right, what am I what am I going to do? So that's the three. There's three scenarios. I let it happen. I springing a lamp and a head or a scream of being raped.

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Jim
So I'm just talking to her. And thankfully it stops and I'm frozen. I am like, okay. And I'm like, No, no. Because initially I thought it was over because I saw I'm looking at or back to me. I'm like, okay. So I had deep breathing. I don't know any about this cleansing and stuff. Then things like, you know, like you guys still.

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Jim
So I'm a deep, deep breathing go out ventilating, you know, shit of shit. I don't know how, but somehow I fell asleep. I guess I was just exhausted. So I wake up in the morning, Helen wakes up. Come on, honey. Guess it could be. How was your night goes, boy? Do I go to store. I said, Boy, do I got a story to tell you.

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Jim
And she goes, somebody tried to pull you out of bed, too.

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Nicole
Well, I would.

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Jim
I and I. And she looks absolutely right. And I was like this not exactly know it does not happen, you know. So I told her, you know, what happened to me. And she said that during the night she was sleeping like this. Most of the night something grabbed her arm and tried to pull over off the bed. And then what?

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Jim
A deer in the headlights look again. The survival rate kicks in and we both go, Holy shit, She was try. She knew that if this was going to happen, she had to get out of the bed so she could crawl in the bed. We said screw shower, brushing our teeth, your clothes on, packed up and said, Thank you very much for the entertainment.

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Jim
And we go downstairs to have breakfast at night because it's same, same owners. So you check in to check out. They do. It's this little guy. Thank you. So we're sitting there having no sort of breakfast and the owner comes over. So. So how was your night? So I told her the story. She knows you know what she says to me?

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Jim
She goes, yeah, she can. She gets that way sometimes. I said, This is for sometimes she just likes the men that are in the room. I said to Lenny, Let me get this straight in my head. You have a madam that is now a succubus, literally living in that room, trying to rape men in front of the wives.

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Jim
And you don't want anybody. She goes, Well, how are we going to rent the room out there? And you got that right. But she would you like to record this? We have a we have a book where you can write. I suggest not because I want at least know in my heart that when I leave here, I gave the next guy a fighting chance that can account for the got of work that allowed him to die.

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Jim
I will totally after that hadn't had nowhere to go. I swear to God.

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Sasha
Nicole, nightfall is a ghost chaser.  Witch and paranormal investigator, like others who are drawn to spooky places. There are moments when the fun of a paranormal investigation crosses the line into pure terror. Nicole's tale features a Japanese shaman and a dangerous spirit. Her experience unfolded at the Haunted Shanley Hotel in the Panic. New York. Now, here's Nicole Nightfall with the spectral serial.

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Nicole
So I'm here for Michael. I'm a paranormal investigator and also a psychic channel. I do a lot of regular posting on my investigations, but.

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Sasha
There is one location.

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Nicole
That.

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Sasha
I swear is the most haunted I've ever been to. And I know you're doing an event there.

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Nicole
And you know which one it is enough in that I would say.

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Sasha
The Shanley.

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Nicole
Hotel. I just live locally. Do not need.

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Sasha
To go there. It is. Every time I've been there.

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Nicole
The evidence is off the.

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Sasha
Chain like those bears are.

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Nicole
Ready to party. I mean, that it's like I was going there before they opened up the third floor. Now the floor is open. It's like a whole other level of stuff. They have a Ouija board painted on the floor, like how is just like.

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Sasha
Let's do this. What? So we're up. I go up there. EXPRESS What was actually there? Actually, I was.

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Nicole
There once before in the morning. But anyway, I was there filming and I, I.

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Sasha
Was like, let me bring the most amazing practitioners I know. So I have my friend with me who's a practitioner, and I also brought a for the Teesta has been doing this for 40 years and one of the last Japanese shamans who, if you've never seen them work, my God. And it's like pretty sacred and secret what they do.

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Sasha
So what he has is a home, like it looks like a bow and arrow. It's like a small instrument that he plays to call on Spirit Control. Spirit. He could do exorcisms with it. He could do anything with this file depending on the tempo and the chance of his doing. So we were up on the third floor. There is a serial killer spirit there named Adam that they claim is there.

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Sasha
I am not sure if this is if this is true or somebody impersonating this character. And that seems to be kind of like Korean, so I can't really tell. But anyway, he is dangerous in my opinion. Or he can be. So we're up there and we're sitting there and we've been there the whole night and all of a sudden, you know the feeling.

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Sasha
If you're a paranormal investigator, it gets like you can hear a pin drop. Even though the equipment's going. It's like that feeling that something has entered the chat and something did go through the chat and I say he's threatening a car accident. He's going to hurt somebody. He's going to go home, somebody in like really messed with their car and try to and they agree they're getting the same stuff.

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Sasha
So my Japanese shaman friend, he's like, Well, we're not going to like exorcize I get rid of because we can't have one. It's like kind of like bad form to do that at somebody location, right? So he's like, what I can do is trap it in the floor. It'll be there for four weeks. So he intends to trap Adam in the floor, is doing the whole thing.

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Nicole
It has no footage of this. It's like it's wild.

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Sasha
It's putting them in the floor. He's putting them in before, so we leave. Everybody is fine. I have mutuals on TikTok from the UK who are paranormal investigators. They're very, very popular. They have like 2 million followers. Like they got a few channels, like thousands of people watch their stuff, so they go live at this location and they're in.

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Nicole
Adam's room.

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Heather
And the guy.

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Sasha
Sits where the Japanese shaman sat on the floor and he all of a sudden jumps up and he goes, Something grabbed my ankle and he starts screaming because he said, I feel the fingers, bro. You know, He's like, doing the whole bro talk, right? So the.

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Heather
Guy that's with him tends to.

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Sasha
Be an aggressor.

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Nicole
Like that big 2010 circle.

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Sasha
Picture that like he's saying, hurt me. If you're so big and bad, you're going to hurt me. Like, do it now. I'm just falling about screaming at him. He has long hair that's in a ponytail on camera. This happens. You see the hair tie come out and his hair falls.

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Nicole
On his face. She and I go watch these guys lot like I'm friends with. I'm going to ruin everything to do. I think we all love people. We know that we don't. But what I support them, they're they're fun, you know, and they mean no harm.

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Heather
But that Hamilton.

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Sasha
Very.

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Nicole
Quickly.

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Heather
And they flew home to the UK and none of this is in their final.

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Nicole
Cut for their YouTube channel, which I find very interesting.

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Sasha
They don't the airport but the park, I warned them in chat. I was like, Guys, he's trying to hurt somebody or something. You better be careful. I said, A car accident, whatever. This guy who got his hair pulled had something really bad happened. This party, it was.

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Nicole
Got to a car accident.

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Sasha
So ever since then I've noticed he's like he's still a little bit. But it humbled him. And maybe he knew that of course he was okay.

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Nicole
But he.

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Sasha
As far was like really.

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Nicole
Messed up, spent a lot of money to get fixed. But yeah, I'm just glad he's okay. But yeah, some of these spirits they don't place and I'll always be careful when you're going out as you're cleansing and.

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Sasha
Doing your thing.

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Nicole
So that's the one that stood up to me, that story, because it was just so tense that all documented. So yeah.

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Sasha
We you share for people listening or watching, what would you share a simple cleanse like if somebody feels like you're in a house that's haunted or if they're going to maybe break and enter into like a cool, abandoned property, what would you want? Something simple that a person can do, which is simple? Well, you should always cleanse yourself before you go in.

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Sasha
So spiritual baths so great. I love that you use river water. By the way.

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Nicole
I've never heard another person. Is that because.

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Sasha
Rivers carry way spirits and they're great for spirits cleansing. So that was like a salt mixture would be a great tip. One I use like the Ghost Chaser herb as well. There's a whole bunch of different types of herbs. Brew especially is great, so make a little spiritual bath mixture with that you can up with Cascadia, which is like an eggshell power, but a really good one to do to to make sure nothing really jumps into your car.

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Sasha
I actually mark the tires with either like holy oil or water.

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Nicole
Put like a.

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Sasha
Cross on each one. And I go like clockwise and I say a little prayer as they go around because they love to like they're like And don't ever walk to a straight pattern to your car walking.

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Nicole
Like a zigzag, almost like you're drunk.

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Sasha
Because and try to follow the energy trail circuit.

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Nicole
Right now. So I would tell people was like, we're not going the same direction, guys. We're breaking up. And usually that's after they're all freaked out.

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Sasha
And thanks to warn us, like, you'll be fine. We just got to go around the house and around like Hinsdale house especially.

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Nicole
It feels like we're.

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Sasha
Splitting up for a while.

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Nicole
my God. That location. I'm not anybody's open to that one. Very dark. Well, thank you, guys.

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Sasha
Hey, Heather Carlucci is a medical intuitive and psychic medium. She's a frequent guest at Ghost Stories by the Fire events due to her constant contact with spirits on the other side. In this episode, Heather's story features the mystical use of the number seven, a drunk driver, and how things in the spiritual and physical world often come full circle.

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Sasha
Her tale takes place deep in the heart of the western Catskills of upstate New York. So please enjoy. Heather Carluccio's How to Cleanse a Haunted House.

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Heather
I chose this story A It's one of my favorites, but also because it has to do with doing the work. And I know a lot of people are practitioners are working on their own intuition and work on their own magic. And I thought it would be really fun to share this one because it was part of a first for me.

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Heather
So about 11 years ago I'm talking on the phone with a friend and we still talk on the phone in the last year. We actually got tired of it and she was like, We're going to move. I was like, Where are you going to move? She's like, It's time we need a bigger place. But last night was really the straw that broke the camel's back.

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Heather
And in the middle of the night, her and her husband woke up to a huge ruckus downstairs and they ran downstairs. And this guy who was raging blind drunk, drove up onto their lawn, burst outside, started screaming at the house, thinking it was somebody else's, urinated on the lawn. She picks up, calls the sheriff. We live in a small town in the Catskills and calls the sheriff and her husband runs to try to get the car keys out of the guy's hands.

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Heather
Her husband's really scrappy, but this guy was huge and raging. She said it's like he's fire. It's it's all very traumatic. Husband could not get the keys out of this guy's hands out of the car, nothing. And the guy throws him down, jumps in the car and drives away. She tells the sheriff which way the car is going.

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Heather
And they're like, Holy moly, That's that's the big we got to move. We got to get out, find out maybe an hour later, guy wrapped the car around a tree.

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Nicole
And it's.

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Heather
Like, we got to get out of here. I said, What are you going to do? She said, Well, another friend of ours said, they just bought this Random house that was in between his house and his son's house so that they could have control what goes on in between the two houses. It's really old, so we could live in it for really cheap if we just sort of like do it up a bit because it's kind of a mess.

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Heather
Just they had one friend in it wants to just like get his life together. And so that's the only thing that's been going on in that house. So at that point in my career and let me really clean spaces for myself, I didn't make it part of my offerings and something in me really stupid was like, Hey, why don't I transact for you?

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Heather
And she's.

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Sasha
Like, That would be great.

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Heather
And I was like.

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Nicole
Yeah, I'll do that.

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Heather
And so later that day I'm on the phone with my friend Woody. Now. Woody was my closest friend, and also my closest friend was also a medium with many, many years under his belt and he was trained in the ways the Lowcountry in South Carolina, radically different than myself. And my approach is very technical and science based. And his was like, Girl, did you read that house first?

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Heather
And I was like, Yeah, I did. He said, Yeah, reading it now it's like, Did you see the little girl? Yes, I did. good. So did you see the man? Yes, I did. And I said, You know what I also saw in that house was a vision of a man in a hallway laying across it with bottles all around.

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Heather
He's not I don't see that, but I can feel that. So I know it's a little sad. He said There are couple things I want you to do. And I was like, Have a good I got That was like, Now you don't. These are the things I want you to do that you need a watch. So you and my friend whose house it is, so you and Alison can time each other because I want you to do the first step in 7 minutes.

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Heather
And I was like, Okay, that second thing you got to do is you got to get a jar of water from the nearest national body of water. That was easy because we all live on the Delaware and house is perched on a hill overlooking because houses like this that are this spooky, they don't just sit low. There's always with.

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Nicole
The.

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Heather
Next thing you got to do, he said, I need your number to cancel. That hasn't been sharpened yet and a sharpened. I said, Okay, said, So the first thing you got to do and I did this is the first thing that you and Alison have to look at your watches. We to find watches as watches, you have to sync up for 7 minutes.

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Heather
And I want you to go through the entire house and make make note of everything in 7 minutes, all the way up and all the way down and then come out again. And then you can go do what you do.

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Jim
Yeah.

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Heather
If you ever feel weird, spill a little bit of the river walk. That should clear it. And if any time you feel unsafe, I want you to take that sharpened pencil that I sharpen when I'm at the front door before I walk it and write a seven on the interior doorjamb of the seventh doorway you walked. I was like, okay, you got.

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Heather
So I call Allison now. It's like you game. She's like, it was like, okay, we're doing the thing. And I was like, I just I'll get that done and then I'll do what I do, what I usually do. Allison I show up to the house and we're like, Okay, go right. Sharpening that pencil walk in the door.

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Heather
I drove the front door. There are two front door, so there's a main front door that would walk into a four year and then one front door kind of step back. This is a wraparound porch and it goes right into the kitchen and I walk into the kitchen and I was like, fuck. It was like walking into a crowd of people.

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Heather
Nobody was there. Everything in the kitchen, which is amazing. Teak wood. It was a way older house. It looked like from the outside it had been painted over so many times you couldn't tell. Right now it's like red and white or something like that. I look around on the first doorway on my right to the front door is the first doorway.

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Heather
Second doorway doesn't have a door on it goes right to the basement. It's pitch black and it doesn't even look like the steps go all the way down. And I was like, We're not going to.

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Nicole
Walk through that door like.

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Heather
Even I know better. And I was like, You know what? No matter what happens here, I got to tough this out because if I'm going to keep doing this professionally, the cleansing part, I got to be afraid of nothing. I have to, like, get through this so I know in my head, in my tuition, nothing can really mess.

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Heather
I get that. So there's another door, there's a bathroom, he said. Deep closets are okay, cabinets are not. And there were cabinets everywhere. It was a big old fashioned kitchen. So I went out all through. I ended up going into the back of the foyer, saw the front door and came around this big living room, big fireplace, all brick, huge windows everywhere.

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Heather
Did not look this impressive. From the outside came around to what was probably a dining room in the corner. I see a stand up piano covered in dust, and I was like, I could feel the energy of it. And I come around and there is a lot there is a seventh door. It's the back of the kitchen with one of those old swinging wooden doors that all they all used to have.

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Heather
And it was wedged open by like a little wooden wedges. You would probably keep right to keep your door open. So I try to like, move the door and it's jammed, like really jammed both hands whenever I'm like, okay, seventh one, let's go take my pencil out. And I'm about to put a seven on the door. Doorjamb And the door swing shut this door.

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Heather
I could not swing shut. And I put my hand up and like, like that, and I was like, Holy shit, this is like movie level action.

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Nicole
Because.

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Heather
Nobody there to witness me. So I'm like, okay, I got my jar of water. I spill it in the corner behind the door. And amazingly, I was like, Holy cow, it disappears. This is amazing. I was like, okay, I can do this. But right now I'm already I can everything I'm feeling, everything is going on. I felt like I could not protect myself enough before I walked in.

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Heather
No matter what I do, how I do it, I was like, we are going to it's going to I walk through and I look to my right. It's I walk into that big living room with the fireplace and there is a little tiny desk covered in carpets. It's a little tiny chamber. And suddenly I feel somebody next to me and it's lo it's the little.

00;25;16;29 - 00;25;18;00
Sasha
Girl.

00;25;18;03 - 00;25;18;29
Jim
You.

00;25;19;01 - 00;25;47;29
Heather
See. I know nothing's freakier than a kid, than doll. But anyway, that. So I'm like, okay, we are here. It is happening. I walked in, I was like, okay, I acknowledge the living room. I acknowledge that crazy dining room, that piano yet to come. Okay? And I as I'm walking towards the doorway, it occurred to me, Holy shit, it's daylight.

00;25;48;01 - 00;25;56;14
Heather
There is nothing weirder than a spooky house when it's a thing like this, you know there's no end. The sun can't come up and make you feel better.

00;25;56;16 - 00;25;57;22
Nicole
Yeah.

00;25;57;24 - 00;26;22;00
Heather
I go towards the stairway and suddenly a marble rolls out from underneath the stairs like she wants to play. I was like, No. And she was so sweet. You could feel it. I could see it and I could see it. At this point I was like, Keep moving it. Remember, the clock's ticking, right? Because I don't want to know what happens.

00;26;22;02 - 00;26;44;03
Heather
I'm not out of your sediment. That's right. So run up the stairs and I'm like, okay, where is everything? I turn to the right and there is in front of me the master bedroom, which is amazing because all the windows in a big round circle facing the river, the light is coming in and in the middle of it are piles of the window screens.

00;26;44;05 - 00;26;59;27
Heather
All the windows are open, like it's weird, something. Anything of it in the middle. Okay, acknowledge me. Acknowledge. And then I turn around and look down the hallway. I could see there's a bathroom at the end, which is how my friend is going to make some money back, because it's obvious that.

00;26;59;29 - 00;27;00;14
Nicole
You shouldn't have to.

00;27;00;14 - 00;27;24;08
Heather
Read to that bathroom. And I look down and there is the image in my mind's eye of the person laying in the middle of the hallway with the bottles. I say hello. I go into the bathroom, I come out and then I go to the left and there is obviously a child's back and the papers start falling off the debts.

00;27;24;10 - 00;27;57;00
Heather
And I see. And they're like, They're just old math papers. I was like, okay, acknowledge. Go to the other side of the hallway, another empty bedroom, say hello. And then I look up and I'm like, God, it's the attic steps. Like never going to end. And they walk up the steps. I literally feel it felt like when you're running through an airport and there are people all around, suddenly the amount of people just like quadrupled.

00;27;57;03 - 00;27;58;17
Heather
And I felt a hand on my.

00;27;58;17 - 00;27;59;15
Nicole
Arm.

00;27;59;17 - 00;28;14;18
Heather
And it was a little hand. I was like, okay, we just got to get up the steps and then I got to run out because I still had 3 minutes left. I was trying to go so fast, so fast that this was actually going to make it. And I got up and it was like a very alarming sight.

00;28;14;24 - 00;28;33;11
Heather
It was a perfectly brand new attic. It was all new wood, unfinished, like plywood. If it was right, it was clean. And throughout the entire thing were these piles this high of 1970s.

00;28;33;14 - 00;28;35;20
Sasha
Coffee table books.

00;28;35;23 - 00;28;55;10
Heather
And I was like, What the hell just happened? I could see from the font, I could see by the yellowing. I was like, Holy cow, they're just staring there. And suddenly I heard like a crack, like a tree branch. They turn around like, my God. I got into a rundown also because at this point I'm like, I want to get out of here right now.

00;28;55;11 - 00;29;01;12
Heather
So it's not to do the cleansing that I'm going to do anyway, right? Run downstairs, run downstairs from the get out.

00;29;01;12 - 00;29;02;18
Nicole
Boom.

00;29;02;20 - 00;29;07;25
Heather
With 2 seconds to spare. And Alison's like, So what do you think about that?

00;29;07;28 - 00;29;10;03
Nicole
I think it's great.

00;29;10;03 - 00;29;31;05
Heather
Because I don't want to say anything to her because her son is there at the time was maybe like six years old. So I'm like, that's great. I love the watermark in the kitchen, right? So we go in and I was like, Come with me. I want you involved a little bit in what I do. So I start with, I produce a lot of vinegar.

00;29;31;05 - 00;29;50;21
Heather
I don't burn sage. That's not my thing, but I burn some other things. I cleanse down. I could talk about that later too. It's fine. I do the whole thing all over again. And I was like, What is the deal with the attic? And she's like, I haven't been up there yet. I was like, Good luck with it.

00;29;50;24 - 00;30;13;24
Heather
It feels wildly different. Also, when I went back up, instead of just the White vinegar that I use and a couple of other things together, I used the river water because I was like, This place really needs to send my blessings. And then I looked to my right and walked out and I was like, There's something going on with the back property, but I'm not sure what that is.

00;30;14;00 - 00;30;15;21
Heather
But I knew that it was not like business.

00;30;15;28 - 00;30;18;04
Nicole
That I knew for sure.

00;30;18;06 - 00;30;36;25
Heather
Turn around and I said goodbye. I got to go take a picture of the of the house, just sort of like click and you kind of see Allison standing there and you see her son kind of running by and you see the house just the side, nothing. I just want to send it to the, you know, get it all in one, too, so you can kind of be involved in it.

00;30;36;25 - 00;30;57;10
Heather
See what you say about from there going further into the mountains. I have a party to go to later, and it's not sitting right with me. I don't know what's not sitting right, but I'm not relaxing like I can when I go to somebody's house for a dinner party. And then I have to go drive all the way home, which is like an hour into the other side of the mountains.

00;30;57;10 - 00;31;13;20
Heather
And I get to my road and I'm just waiting to feel better and I'm not feeling better. I keep looking in the rearview mirror into my backseat. They feel like something's there. One of those things I get to my house, which is a house I have been in my in and out of my entire life. I know that.

00;31;13;20 - 00;31;33;25
Heather
I know I'm safe there. I walked in and I checked every closet. Something was bothering me. Something was bothering me. Something was bothering being so high into the mountains before I didn't have any bars on my phone. And all of a sudden they get to my house and it's going, Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding. Buzz, buzz, buzz, buzz, buzz.

00;31;33;25 - 00;31;52;12
Heather
And I looked down and I had 17 voice messages and 35 texts all from Woody Fields. And I keep saying, Did you look at the photo? Did you look at the photo, put it on a computer, make it bigger. Look at the photo. Look at the photo, Look at the photo. Call me, Call me, Call me. Call me and get him on the phone.

00;31;52;12 - 00;32;16;23
Heather
I was like, Hey, did you look at the picture? I was like, Fuck no. I was like, The car is full of people. My house is full of people. I can't. I was like, I feel weird. He was like, okay, you got it. He's like, I can read it. You have a really weak and very needy energy stuff, but at the same time, I get a call from another friend, my friend Betty, and she's like, I feel weird about you.

00;32;16;23 - 00;32;33;22
Heather
What, you got stuck on your back? So they tell me. They tell me both. They've never met at this point. They know very much about each other. They've never met. They tell me the exact same thing to do. Right. It's an open your door and you'll get out four times and slam that door. I was like, It's easy enough.

00;32;33;24 - 00;32;57;06
Heather
I do it, slam it. I'm like, Fine, I'm going that I will deal with everything else. In the morning. I go to bed and for the first time in my life, living that I shut the door and I get under the covers and I'm like, I just have to go to sleep. I have to go to sleep. And all of a sudden I start hearing this in the front of my house and I don't know what it is.

00;32;57;06 - 00;33;19;21
Heather
And it's constant and it's over and over and over and over again. And what do I do? I don't go anywhere near I live in the middle of nowhere, and I know it's got to be an animal of some kind. It feels like it's banging against a window. And I want and it's so severe. I'm like, I don't know what it is, but I'm tired.

00;33;19;24 - 00;33;37;13
Heather
Mean, it's been a long day. And obviously at that point in my life, I could not deal with it. I get up in the morning and I still I can hear it. It's softer and I go to the front of my house and there on my window is a moth.

00;33;37;13 - 00;33;42;01
Sasha
This thing with a body like hacked off.

00;33;42;03 - 00;34;02;12
Heather
Like something that you only see in science book and it's hanging on to the screen. And of course, it's here in the window because the window, it's very windy night because, of course, that night had to be when they hear. So I'm still freaked out by everything. And I try to center myself and all the things I know how to do at that point.

00;34;02;12 - 00;34;28;05
Heather
Because remember, cleansing is new. Everything else is old hat for me. But cleansing like that level was so new. I do the next thing I know how to do. As a smart, intuitive, witchy person, I get in my car and I go back to the city and hightail it back to my apartment. My mom's sitting down and she's at the apartment and she got and I'm telling her this story and she was like, my God.

00;34;28;07 - 00;34;30;00
Heather
I'm like, I know.

00;34;30;02 - 00;34;31;24
Nicole
It's like and you look at the.

00;34;31;24 - 00;34;33;07
Heather
Picture and I said.

00;34;33;11 - 00;34;34;11
Jim
No.

00;34;34;11 - 00;34;58;15
Heather
She's like, Get it backed up. You're fine here. I'm like, Yeah, I'm fine with me. Fine, fine. Right. And I opened up the picture and I make it big. And you can see in the window the little girl, the little brown white face with the little dark eyes looking out And above her, you can see something wispy to me.

00;34;58;15 - 00;35;26;14
Heather
When I read it, it looked like the one of the men that I saw when I was in the house. Nothing bad between them. He just happened to be there. One time at the time, and she lived there as well. I go to find out the next day that the man laying on the floor that I saw, of course, was the friend of the person that owned the house that he was trying to out was the man who died the night she decided to move.

00;35;26;17 - 00;35;27;25
Nicole
On.

00;35;27;28 - 00;35;30;16
Heather
With that man.

00;35;30;19 - 00;35;42;18
Sasha
Yeah. Thank you. Okay.

00;35;42;21 - 00;36;08;19
Sasha
Tonight's live ghost Stories by the fire episode was recorded at the Light Club Curiosity Shop in Boy Wake, New York. The Light Club. Curiosity Shop is a metaphysical healing and artistic haven. They offer handmade, magical items, healing sessions and unique events in their 8000 square foot space. That's the Light Club Curiosity Shop at 40 Main Street in Waldwick, New York.

00;36;08;22 - 00;36;31;18
Sasha
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00;36;31;20 - 00;36;56;06
Sasha
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00;36;56;08 - 00;37;15;03
Sasha
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00;37;15;05 - 00;37;28;00
Sasha
The.

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Sasha
And stay spooky.